Seguin looks like the healthy scratch

Rich Peverley practiced with the Bruins today for the first time since he was acquired from the Atlanta Thrashers.  Claude Julien addressed where Peverley might line up and stated,  

“We’ll probably play him to start with on the wing with Kelly and Ryder, so basically just jumping into Wheeler’s spot. For now. We’ll look at how everything unfolds. Both Peverley and Kelly can play center and wing, which is good to have as versatility.’’

Julien recently has also stated he likes what he has seen from the Paille-Campbell-Thorton combination and did not want to see that line broken up.  Even with the strong play of Tyler Seguin in the past few games, it will be unfortunate but it appears he will be a  healthy scratch. 

Does scratching Seguin, Kelly center the third line, and Peverley skate on the wing make sense? Absolutely not. A potential Seguin-Peverley-Ryder combination would have been a fun line to watch, especially because of the speed and offensive abilities of the three. Would the defense on that line be lacking? Probably somewhat, but Peverley basically replaces Wheeler, who was nothing great defensively either. In addition,  Peverley has taken 1020 faceoffs and has a 55.5 faceoff winning percentage. In comparison Kelly has taken 726 faceoffs and has a 50.1 winning percentage. As the stats show Peverley is clearly the better center when it comes to taking faceoffs especially since his numbers rank almost identical to Patrice Bergeron (1078 taken 56.4 winning percentage), who ranks 3rd in the league among centers who have taken at least 850 faceoffs.

Not to take anything away from Chris Kelly, but from this perspective during the regular season at least, Peverley centering Seguin with Kelly centering the fourth line make the Bruins a much more dangerous opponent than having Kelly centering the third line and Daniel Paille skating around aimlessly, missing the net by 10 feet on every shot he takes.  Come playoff time obviously it will be a different situation but having Seguin learn from a skilled centerman like Peverley makes perfect sense.

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66 Responses to Seguin looks like the healthy scratch

  1. black n gold says:

    No surprise Claude aways picks on the young kids with the most potential !! Its always about defence first does this guy know nothing about offence

  2. gibbz says:

    omfg. i wish daniel paille didnt exist.

  3. pearson says:

    so much hate for paille around here. hes got 2 goals and an assist in the past 5 games. to get that from a 4th liner is by no means stellar, but its no reason to complain. i love his play, he plays hard, he grinds hard, and he plays some great defensive hockey for a forward.

    ryder’s been playing great, but if he starts to struggle again then he can take a seat in exchange for seguin. same could be said for horton.

  4. Gcole says:

    Personally I think this is a great situation to have, not everyone is going to stay healthy, it’s inevitable someones going to get hurt, and now there’s a sense of security that the person taking their place is capable. Whatever happens, happens.

  5. jimmy50 says:

    What a horrible post. Chiarelli traded for Kelly and Peverly to sit them and play Seguin, who is no where near ready for the NHL, nevermind the NHL PLAYOFFS.

    • ELWOPPO says:

      I was thinking the same thing! Guys we have a great thing going here! Dont worry about Seguin, He is a star in the making! We can afford to bring him up slowly! He is still young and doesnt have the experience that kelly,paille and peverly have! Let Claude and the couching staff do thier thing, Thier all smarter than us! Trust me, dont worry were fine!

    • CCMGoalie says:

      I agree completely Jimmy50. There is no need to rush Seguin. If we rush him he will fail. Hall will be the better player to start out, but Seguin is going to develop smoother and not as hurredly and be the overall better player. Seguin is GOING to be great. He is not great, yet. Give him time boys. I personally think a Peverley-Kelly-Ryder line is going to be pretty deadly for a third line. Peverley may have the better faceoff percentage, but Kelly wins more crucial faceoffs. How about we give them a chance on the ice before we tear them apart.

      • pearson says:

        seguin will be better on a better team. which is fine with me. not that anyone here is big on basketball, and im not really either, but it would be like the differance between chris paul and rondo. paul is probly better, but rondo is better because he’ll always have a relevant team.

        maybe im completely wrong but im also completely drunk right now

    • God is on OUR side!!!!!! says:

      thank you for saying that i think peverly and kellys stats are both way better than seguins so naturally seguin should be the one to sit

  6. Edski says:

    How about we stay healthy before everything gets to crazy

  7. Manitoba Fan says:

    I completely agree with the whole just relax notion. Seguin is gonna be great but i really don’t think he is ready. The bruins took a gamble on keeping him around this season, but it just didn’t work. They should have let him play another season in junior or play the season with the P-bruins. It’s not a big deal. He will be fine. I think the bruins organization does a great job letting players develop. Krejci, Sobotka, Rask, Marchand! In all honesty i would like to see him play 20 games or so with the P – Bruins and then bring him up to stay. The coaching staff and management will know what to do with Tyler. Mark my words once he develops, Scary. Kids got soo much speed and skill and one hell of a shot, he just needs some time in the ahl to develop and gain some valuble experience. Like come on people he doesn’t like getting hit, he looks scared and playing on the third or fourth line will not help that. Playing against other teams 3rd or 4th lines are usually grinder lines with bigger guys who play really physical and hit. Until he isn’t scared to get his nose dirty he won’t help our 3rd or 4th line. I love that we have him because in a little more time he will be good. look at Kadri in Toronto thay had high hopes for him but he’s just not ready. I love they way our team looks and direction they are going. PROUD TO BE A BRUINS FAN!!!!!!!

    • lucic crew says:

      Well said

    • pearson says:

      hes 18. maybe 19 (?) i forget. if it take him 4 years to develop then hes still real young.

      we’re fine. lets start planning the parade.

    • Haus says:

      Understand the sentiment, but I believe Seguin is ineligible for the AHL.

      • CCMGoalie says:

        You’re right Haus he is inellgible for the AHL because of that whole eligibility for Juniors still, or something like that. It sucks that he has to sit and split time with someone else, but it’s a GREAT problem to have and I think some people are forgetting that lately. Having a number of quality players and a couple young kids in the wings is exactly how the NHL franchise model works. PC is a shrewd business man and smarter than the average idiot (Calgary’s former GM Sutter (?) looking at you buddy) This system will work we just need to be patient folks.

  8. jm says:

    seguin should have spent the season in the ohl. they should have let him dominate an mature so at least he’s on the ice. i agree he would be a great fit on the 3rd line just sucks to see him in a suit instead of a jersey.

    • CCMGoalie says:

      I feel like if we had left Seguin in the OHL he would’ve regressed in his defensive development because he would’ve been looked to as a playmaker and not to being a two-way forward like Bergeron. Unfortunately for him his draft rights became ours instead of Toronto’s where they would’ve had the space for him on their roster and he’d be getting big minutes, but it wouldn’t serve him as well because Toronto’s development system sucks compared to ours. Like ManitobaFan said, look at Krejci, Marchand, Rask, and Sobotka he will develop to his full potential and hopefully we have a better spot for him next year and hopefully he brings his game to the next level that he has.

  9. Haus says:

    Its silly to worry about whether he is ‘learning’. Of course he is. The main thing to learn right now is how to conduct yourself as a professional, and I’m sure he’s getting that from the other guys in the room. The Bruins have made it clear that they intend to shoot for a cup this year. There is no sense in burdening him with extra pressure to be mistake-free in that kind of environment. With all that being said, its highly doubtful he will sit from here on out. Watch for him to re-emerge down the stretch, causing selection headaches for Julien. The biggest thing for him is the physical maturity/willingness to go to the tough areas, and I think we’ve seen some improvement there.

  10. jimmy50 says:

    once again 4 pts ahead of the habs with a game in hand

  11. ELWOPPO says:

    TRADE TALK NOW BOYS
    Does Chiarelli stay quite on Feb 28,Is he done?
    We have a tough road trip ahead starting tomorrow against the hot Calgary flames! Maybe Chiarelli will analyze the team and tweak a little! I think a trade for a decent shut down defencman could help? God knows the stats have been high in the goals againts department lately!!!!!! Or do u think the team is complete!

    • pearson says:

      we just traded stuart… a young, shut down style defensemen. nah man, we’re good.

    • ELWOPPO says:

      *QUIET*

    • CCMGoalie says:

      I bet if we do make any moves it’ll be for prospects or picks. We are relatively tight to the Cap now and we already have a numbers probelm, so picking up another roster player right now doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. Unless we’re picking up Iginla for almost nothing (which will NEVER happen) I think PC has done a great job and will stand pat from here on out.

      I would look for him to be active at the Draft or over the summer though because we do still have that Minnesota 2nd Rounder.

    • Haus says:

      Look for deals that appear minor but the return is realized later on. Like the Kampfer trade at last years deadline. Come to think of it, what a great fucking move by PC. He scooped up Kampfer for a 4th rd pick.

  12. willisss says:

    I wouldn’t expect anymore trade….pc done goood

  13. neely8 says:

    Seguin on 4th line? give this kid a chance. I think kelly on the 4th with campbell and thornton would be a great 4th line. They need to let seguin loose and play his game. A lot of people are debating the rookie issue and i think CJ isnt letting seguin play and giving him the chance. i think seguin should be on the top 2 lines. Coture and Skinner are on good teams and they are contributing night in and night out. You cant make an arguement the players on those teams are less skilled than ours because San Jose’s players are better than ours. Taylor hall may be on a bad team but Renney is letting him play and CJ is not letting seguin. Plain and simple CJ is not letting the kid play his game.

    • marchamam says:

      I understand the excitement this kid has brought and we are all rooting for him to break out….. but do you guys seriously think he should be learning the game when we are trying to make a run? He needs to sit out.. our chances are better with guys who have more experience.

  14. bruins5 says:

    absolutely terrible decision. Seguin is playing good hockey of late and you destroy his confidence by sitting him. Put kelly on the fuckin fourth line

  15. zamer says:

    I agree put kelly on 4th line and seguin on 3rd and use this road trip as a trial basis,put paille on waivers and bring Caron back.Wacthing a hockey talk show saying that bruins couldve done better on the trade with Atlanta,they said valabik was a joke they said for Peverly trade that the bruins had no choice but to take this player,one guy siad that our gm couldve done lot better.HE said peverly for wheeler is equal with each player having there own qualities,but stuart for valabik what a joke they couldve got something abit better from Atlanta system.

  16. Haus says:

    At first glance it looks like the Pens fleeced the Stars, getting James Neal and Matt Niskanen for Alex Goligoski.

  17. Birdman2403 says:

    Our fourh line is better then most in the league. Adding Kelly to it would make it another 3rd line. Sit Paille and Seguin, Ryder & Peverley. I’ll give Julien a break. You have to try some combos I guess. But for playoffs Paille better sit !

  18. BosBrn77 says:

    I have a different thought on all of this. Why not rotate sitting guys. Give them a rest. Recchi for example is a lot older… give him some time off to rest for the playoffs. Not saying 3 games in a row, but maybe one night for Recchi, then Seguin, then Ryder, then Horton, and so forth. We have a great opportunity to really fill the tanks back up.

    Think of it this way…. Paille sat for how long? And look how energized he was to come back and make a statement… mainly to not sit again. Let them all watch from the luxury box for a game. Give them a new perspective and a greater desire to really bust ass out there.

  19. Bruins1 says:

    Ok if we are going to sit Seguin, is it possible we can trade him for? I would trade him to Edmonton , and the package would look like this:

    To Edmonton: Seguin and Paille

    To Boston: Hemsky and their 1st rd pick (possible #1 for larsson)

    What you think? Hemsky would look sweet in our line-up, and we still get a stud in this year’s draft. make that 2 studs with TOR pick.

    • lucic crew says:

      Nope, seguin is not ready yes but give it time he will be the man.

    • willisss says:

      ..enough man, your not a bad dude, but come on…..I can’t read your trade thoughts anymore

      • lucic crew says:

        Hey willisss was just wondering whats your thoughts on marchand.

      • willisss says:

        he proved me wrong and has been playing great hockey…i dont wish for players on my favorite hockey team to fail..when bruin players prove me wrong and shut me up, i say thats a win/win

    • pearson says:

      jesus man. as much as some people get down on PC, be glad people like bruins1 here isnt in charge.

      • lucic crew says:

        And have no idea why pc is the man.

      • #4 says:

        Im waiting to see if PC is “the man” or just “a man”. If these trades work out we get past the ECF and Sign kaberle to a GOOD deal.

        Then he will be the man. I mean he’s been pretty conservative as a GM, now he’s making his first real splash. Lets see if it works out.

    • #4 says:

      Hahah

      Imagine Seguin-Hall-Eberle line combo in about 5 years if we made that trade? EDM winning back-back-back cups and we’d be all going DAMNIT!

  20. lucic crew says:

    wow moast where did that come from i didnt say trade him.

  21. lucic crew says:

    in my last post put a comma between why and pc.

  22. lucic crew says:

    willisss that was very well put.

  23. Haus says:

    Reading in the Boston Herald today it looks like Paille will be the healthy scratch. Seguin will skate on the Campbell line, at least to start. Julien conceded that he will be experimenting and looking for the right fits come playoff time.

  24. #4 says:

    What do you guys think of Seguin being put on the 4th line/scratched again? Curly’s handling of this kid is just starting to really get on my nerves. I understood the last bout of healthy scratches but the kid has been money since he came back. Easily his most consistent few games of the year. Playing with Ryder/Wheeler. For me it only seems natural to replace Paille w/ Kelley and Wheeler w/ Peverley and not change the lines.

    DA was just saying this and I agree. We know he’s not on the Oil and is going to learn in a different way but when he shows that he’s starting to get it. Thats when you let him go and see if he can find his game A’la Stamkos 2nd half of his rookie season. Wouldnt Seguin hitting his stride for the playoffs as a goalscorer more than offset the “defensive” presence of kelley on the 3rd line?

    I dont get it, to me it seems like Curly Joe just picks on the rookies. But lets Micheal Glyder have free rain out there.

    • ELWOPPO says:

      Well the “kid” is playing tonight so lets see if he is worthy of a perminate roster spot! I hope he tears shit up! We see?

    • CCMGoalie says:

      Michael “Glyder” is having a great season. I don’t know what you’re watching #4, but the guy is one of our most consistent players this season. Night in and night out the dude is moving his feet and getting shots on net. Granted, he isn’t having a stellar season like we’d all really like him to have, but he is having a season worth noticing. Give the guy some credit where its due.

      Claude isn’t “picking on the rookies” he’s playing whose putting in a consistent effort while we try for a home seed in the playoffs. Claude, like PC, is a shrewd dude give him some slack. Seguin isn’t hitting a consistent stride like Claude looks for. It’s not just because Seguin isn’t being defensively responsible all the time its because he is 18 years old, just a kid still. And he’s playing a man’s game. He isn’t going to the corners for whatever reason, he isn’t making smart high percentage plays with and without the puck. He needs to learn the game and a good way to do that, while we have a plethora of veterans who play both sides of the puck, is to watch and take notes. Cut Claude some slack guys, sometimes it sounds like we’ve got a bunch of Habs fans on here because after some games they’d trade EVERYONE for some pucks and a used water bottle just to get rid of them.

      I like the idea that BosBrn77 posted. Cycle who sits through the end of the regular season so everyone gets a game or two here and there to let them recover and revitalize themselves by wathcing a bit and relaxing a bit. We can afford to rest some people up with the talent we have, but come playoff time we are going to need to find 4 consistent lines to bring our game to the next level to make a deep run this spring. Give Claude some slack guys. He’s in a great and terrible situation. He’s got too much talent and not enough roster spots. I’m excited to see what he does. Go B’s…

      • #4 says:

        Yeah old horses die slowly, its hard to not to harp on Ryder but I do admit he is having a much better season than expected.

        Anyways I like the Marchand comparison if playing with Thorts/Soupy can get Seguin competing like Marchand does than we’ll be all set.

    • Haus says:

      We’ve seen some improvement but the truth is for the most part the kid has conceded 75% of all one on one battles because he’s afraid to get hit. Another 24% of those he lost cleanly. So, hate on Ryder and others if you will, but at least they stick their nose in and come out with the puck their fair share. Until Seguin is willing to fight for a puck, he should be scratched. Or play on 4th line, where he did actually battle earlier this year.

      • ELWOPPO says:

        Agreed! Only 19, Has looooots to learn yet!

      • CCMGoalie says:

        Agreed Haus and ElWoppo, He’s just got to learn the ways to succeed in the NHL. Under Bergeron, Savard, Recchi, and even Lucic, I don’t see how he can’t be an absolute stud in the future.

  25. mook says:

    Seguin is a lock, BUT you gotta be careful with this kid to not shatter his confidence. Julien has to get him used to watching some nights, as I’m sure he has already discussed with him. Look at Tavares…he is supposed to be the next gretzky, but playing on that shit team night-in and night-out has him looking not so hot anymore.

    Watching from the pressbox beats having a really bad night on the ice. If he doesn’t play every night for 20 minutes…just relax.

    Also, remember we’re in 1st place in our division and we just improved the team immensely by adding kaberle. If peverley works-out, that’s just icing.

    I was at the game in Ottawa on Friday…there were more bruins fans than sens fans! all from gatineau and hull…good times. crazy to see kaberle wearing #12…

  26. ELWOPPO says:

    QUESTION?
    What happens to Savard, Should he not return next year? Does his Salary count againts the Cap!!??

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